Been covered here many times. United has NO 777s, 744s parked. Any planes which people might see, were lease returns and belong to the respective companies.

From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter): Does UA have any 747's in the dessert? An FA this weekend said they have more parked there. Where are they getting the metal for Dubai and Moscow? UA has no aircraft in the desert, there may be 747-422s in the desert but all were returned to the lessor and are not part of UAs fleet anymore. With CAN being put off for a year, at the earliest, they were able to shift those aircraft to operate DXB. I'm actually not sure where they are getting the 763 from, there may be some shifting around, IE upgrading a 763 to a 772 on some route.

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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1): Not true. N207UA 777-222 that was painted for Royal Brunei and was never taken up just got flown to MZJ. Granted it is Wells Fargo, but it still has UAL reg. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N207UA I think all the 744s are either flying for Corsair or Blue Sky

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Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 3): N207UA 777-222 that was painted for Royal Brunei and was never taken up just got flown to MZJ. Granted it is Wells Fargo, but it still has UAL reg. The registration means nothing, it is owned by someone else. The current certificate for this aircraft was effective 4-JAN-07 and is owned by US Bank. If United had any right to it, it would not fly with it's N number. Changing a n-number costs money and if it is going to go to a foreign carrier and change to that countries N number standard then why change it when it is just sitting around in the US.

Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 3): Not true. Registrations are meaningless. There are dozens of planes floating around for all types of airlines with former registrations. Again lets be clear -- United does not have ownership or lease interest in any parked widebodies. 763, 777s and 744s were returns during the bankruptcy process.

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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5): I understand. BUT a UAL T7 is sitting in the desert w/ a UAL reg that is still active. So officially I am right Plus it did fly for UAL up till 05 under that reg. [Edited 2008-05-08 20:03:15]

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Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 6): I understand. BUT a UAL T7 is sitting in the desert w/ a UAL reg that is still active Once again... wrong. There is a US Bank T7 sitting in the desert with a US Bank registration. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...=207UA&cmndfind.x=13&cmndfind.y=14 *And as of last year, there are NO airworthy 744's parked ANYWHERE in the desert. This info is from my old roommate who worked for Cargo 360 when they were looking for ANY 744's to buy. And actually, I believe it was none anywhere in the world! <--- this blurb was the edit [Edited 2008-05-08 20:37:14]

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OK so no 744's and no 777's hanging around so back to where does the metal come from for the Moscow and Dubai? Domestic 763's going to be used for Moscow? How many 777's are used domestically?

There are four B744s sitting at HKG right now awaiting a new operator. The planes belonging to Oasis Hong Kong. So while it may have been true last year, there are some B744 currently available.

Quoting AlexInWa (Reply 8): OK so no 744's and no 777's hanging around so back to where does the metal come from for the Moscow and Dubai? The 772 for DXB comes from the CAN route that UA delayed for a year and the 763 for MOW comes from one of the ones that is currently out of service for cabin remodifaction Quoting AlexInWa (Reply 8): Domestic 763's going to be used for Moscow? How many 777's are used domestically? No it will be a international 763 for MOW, and there are 8 or 9 772 in the domestic config

Aircraft Flown A319 A320 A330 B727 B737 B747 B757 B767 B777 DC10 CRJ-200 CRJ-700 ERJ

Quoting N104UA (Reply 10): and there are 8 or 9 772 in the domestic config UA has... 33 777-200ER 3-Class International 13 777-200 3-Class International 6 777-200 2-Class Domestic ------- 52

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Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 6): BUT a UAL T7 is sitting in the desert w/ a UAL reg that is still active. It is not a UA plane though, is what LAXintl is trying to tell you. The plane belongs to a lessor, and is no longer with UA in any capacity. A UA registration is meaningless. What about the 757's at DL or Super 80's at AA with TWA tail numbers?? They are not TWA planes, despite the simple N-number... Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 6): Plus it did fly for UAL up till 05 under that reg Yes, but only until 05 as you say. It is no longer UA's at all. It's delivery to UA does not mean it is incumbent to always operate as a UA plane... Quoting AlexInWa (Reply 8): Domestic 763's going to be used for Moscow? The domestic 763's (ship#'s 66XX) have PW4056 motors and probably would not do too well on transatlantic. Even so, as another user said it will be done with 3-cabin international ones. Quoting N104UA (Reply 10): and there are 8 or 9 772 in the domestic config Only 6. Ships 2510 through 2515.

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Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 3): N207UA 777-222 that was painted for Royal Brunei and was never taken up just got flown to MZJ. Granted it is Wells Fargo, but it still has UAL reg. I don't believe that particular aircraft is in Arizona. I saw it leave AFW a few weeks back and according to Flightaware it flew to an airport in Maine (can't remember which one). I checked for several days, but it never showed leaving Maine. It could have left there by now, but I can't say for sure.

Quoting United1 (Reply 2): I'm actually not sure where they are getting the 763 from, there may be some shifting around, IE upgrading a 763 to a 772 on some route. UA908/9 ORD-AMS is being upgraded from a 763 to a T7 This summer and possibly onwards. PSPfan

Theres a boatload of 763,s for sale in Ua livery but i think they were leased

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Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 7): *And as of last year, there are NO airworthy 744's parked ANYWHERE in the desert. Not doubting you, but I find this to be amazing. You would think there would be a few here and there, and certainly some in the desert. I did not know the 744 was still in demand at this level.

Didn't the first post ask for 747s - yes, there are 747-100 and 747-200 in old United colors in the desert Quoting Rbgso (Reply 16): I did not know the 744 was still in demand at this level. They are. If you don't have early A380 slots, or in some cases 77W on order, there is no alternative.

Heck...the reg means nothing....there are still NXXXPA birds flying....does that mean they still belong to Pan Am the first? nooooo. Quoting VC10er (Thread starter): An FA this weekend said they have more parked there. Ahhh...there is the problem...the jumpseat telegraph is always interesting but sometimes wrong....heck most of them fly sitting backwards!! grin (That same jumpseat telegraph had TED dying two years ago btw.)       FYI there was a lot of chatter about the ex UA birds given up by RG....afaik UA did look but the story was the lessors wanted UA to pay the cost of bringing the birds back up to specs which was described as 'large'....the same lessors UA rejected during chapt 11....obviously that didn't work as the birds went elsewhere. I would never say never but the chances of UA recovering old lease planes is fairly slim....

Quoting Rbgso (Reply 16): I did not know the 744 was still in demand at this level. I was under the impression that 744's were in great demand for freighter conversions, so it does not surprise me that few, if any, are available.

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Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 12): It is not a UA plane though, is what LAXintl is trying to tell you. The plane belongs to a lessor, and is no longer with UA in any capacity. A UA registration is meaningless. What about the 757's at DL or Super 80's at AA with TWA tail numbers?? They are not TWA planes, despite the simple N-number... dude I understand and I know. All I said was, to the un trained person, they would say UA still owns it ok! Thats All I was trying to say, I know its US Banks plane.

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Quoting EXMEMWIDGET (Reply 13): I don't believe that particular aircraft is in Arizona. I saw it leave AFW a few weeks back and according to Flightaware it flew to an airport in Maine (can't remember which one). I checked for several days, but it never showed leaving Maine. It could have left there by now, but I can't say for sure. It was at Marana (Pinal Airpark)on 4/8, parked on the ramp in full Royal Brunei colors but still with the reg. N207UA. According to Flightaware http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N207UA it left AFW on 3/27 and flew direct to Pinal Airpark