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Welcome-Caribbean/Caribe/Caraibes Aviation Part 34  
User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 947 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4439 times:

Welcome to another chapter in Caribbean Aviation:
Please continue this discussion in part 33

Part 33

Caribbean Aviation News and Updates


  • Air Jamaica divestment continues as the Jamaica Government wants it to be completed by March 2009.
  • Air Jamaica and Govenrment of Jamaica to sign agreement to get code shared flights to China and Japan.
  • American Airlines to start GND-MIA and ANU-MIA November 2008.
  • Delta to pull out of TAB-ATL soon?
  • Caribbean Airlines and Spirit Airlines announcing flights to FLL, fierce competition from both sides.
  • CAL Dash 8 painted, talks of Dash Q400? 7th 738 to come next month?
  • LIAT will not be getting investment support from St. Lucia, so says Allen Chastanet



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 1822 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4429 times:



Quoting Caribbean484 (Thread starter):
7th 738 to come next month?

Still no firm date...at least we know it must arrive before the 22nd May (POS-FLL start date!)

Quoting A388 (Reply 209):
According to flightstats.com EOS did serve POS but I don't know how good the loads were. In any case their should not be that many stranded passengers as the EOS 757's were all-business class (or first class) seats with about 48 seats in the entire aircraft as far as I can remember. Oasis of Hong Kong used 747-400s with a capacity of about 400 passengers which lead to many stranded passengers if the remaining flights were fully booked.

In this case the number of stranded passengers in POS will probably be "minimal" due to the "single-class" lay-out of a much smaller aircraft (757).

Actually I believe that EOS did have an agreement with one of the travel operators. The a/c was in an all economy layout. It was operated on behalf of either Constellation or one of the other charters, not EOS directly. I also believe that this agreement was ended recently, and so the airline involved I imagine has an alternative. If not given the lack of frequency of charter flights (?) I don't think that too many people will be adversely affected. Especially since it is not peak-season now and so CAL, DL, AA and CO should be able to pick up the slack and probably will be very pleased!

Caribbean484 Thanks once again for getting the thread up and running!

AA1818


One World all the way!
User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 947 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4417 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 1):
Actually I believe that EOS did have an agreement with one of the travel operators. The a/c was in an all economy layout. It was operated on behalf of either Constellation or one of the other charters, not EOS directly. I also believe that this agreement was ended recently, and so the airline involved I imagine has an alternative. If not given the lack of frequency of charter flights (?) I don't think that too many people will be adversely affected.

Eos Airlines had an agreement with Constellation travel since earlier this year, however with things as they are in the industry, Constellation could not pay its bills and the agreement fell throught. I think that the pax affected were accomodated on other airlines.

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 1):
Still no firm date...at least we know it must arrive before the 22nd May (POS-FLL start date!)

Someone with info?

User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4421 times:
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DL to start JFK-ANU service in June....

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BW increases flights for Jazz Festival........

Smooth flights, sailings out of Tobago

WITH the end of the Plymouth Jazz Festival yesterday, there came the usual rush for flights and ferries returning to Trinidad.

According to an official at the Airports Authority of Trinidad and Tobago, Caribbean Airlines, anticipating an increase in travellers to and from Tobago, increased their flights this weekend. From 5.30 am to 11 pm on Saturday and Sunday, there were two flights per hour.

A member of staff on the reservations desk at Caribbean Airlines told Newsday that, while the flights to Tobago yesterday were mostly empty, all of the flights from the sister isle were fully booked.

The Port Authority too, reported the ferry to be running at full capacity. It seems that all sailings were booked from “early on” this year with several persons on stand by.

The TT Express will also have an extra run today at 10 am from Tobago in order to accommodate the flood of passengers leaving the island

User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 2582 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

So, what really is the story of DL in TAB? I could not find any news about this route being pulled. Is the load factor a major problem?

On another point, it is very clear that both BW and JM got far less for their LHR slots than could have been obtained, especially when one considers the tens of millions of dollars that CO for example have paid for slots there to inaugurate their new services under US and EU Open Skies. The problem was that both Jamaica and Trinidad & Tobago had few options because they wanted to safeguard air services to the UK. Were they to have placed the slots on the open market they would have been able to bargain harder and get more money for them. In particular, Trinidad faced the complete loss of UK service (not counting TAB's services by BA, VS and XL Airways which in any case cater more for tourists) without BW on the route. While both BA and VS placed bids - and VS actually bid more than its larger rival - the Government were forced to take BA's offer as VS did not want to serve POS. Jamaica was somewhat different in that VS already served MBJ and BA KIN and both were committed to the routes to the island but to an extent greater safeguards to KIN were needed. VS thus was the winner that time.

TrinToCan.


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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4408 times:
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Quoting Trintocan (Reply 4):

Regarding VS deal.....

Two words......."Solicitation" and "Kickback".........

User currently offlineMKE22 From United States, joined Nov 2007, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4395 times:

Exciting to hear Air Dominicana will be starting service soon! Happy for all in the D.R. !


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User currently offline9YCAL From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Feb 2008, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4357 times:

I did not see Delta in TAB this weekend. Like they have suspended the flights already! What a shame though. Every carrier that tried the US market came and went with the breeze. American Eagle to SJU, Travel Span to JFK, Delta to ATL and the old BW to IAD, YYZ & JFK.

User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 947 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4341 times:



Quoting 9YCAL (Reply 8):
a shame though. Every carrier that tried the US market came and went with the breeze. American Eagle to SJU, Travel Span to JFK, Delta to ATL and the old BW to IAD, YYZ & JFK.

yeah its been rough on TAB for US service, but they need to market more, maybe they should try some primetime ads on networks like ABC, NBC and CBS. Could attract some more visitors.

User currently offlineMKE22 From United States, joined Nov 2007, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4320 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 10):
Of course it's news and if you provide us with a link

Sure.

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/tou...nes-inaugural-flight-set-for-May-2

pretty much summing everything up here @ wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Dominicana


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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 1726 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

DL has not really felt that it needs to heavily advertise any of its Caribbean routes so I am not surprised.

A388 did you get my email and was it helpful?

Regards
BWIA 772


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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 1822 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4317 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 11):
Sure.

Cheers.
Interesting that their first route is to Colombia then Venezuela. Do they have 5th freedome between COL and VEN?
I would have thought that somewhere like MIA or JFK would have ben their first route.

I guess the 763 will be used Trans-Atlantic?

Two start-ups within mere weeks of each other in a country that has lacked it's own established international airline. Great news and I wish the Dominican Republic all the best!

Any idea where the 738s are coming from?

AA1818


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 4844 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4305 times:



Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 12):
A388 did you get my email and was it helpful?

Hi BWIA772, I received your email, thanks! It was helpful.

Regards,

A388

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 4844 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4298 times:



Quoting MKE22 (Reply 10):
pretty much summing everything up here @ wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Dom...icana

Why are they focussing on Punta Cana instead of Santo Domingo? Are they only targetting tourists and no local traffic (VFR)? Will they fly to CUR? If so, when will they start?

A388

User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 2691 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4298 times:

If TAB wants to keep a non weekly-charter flight to the U.S., the 1st thing the Trini tourism authotio should be trying to do is to get a major U.S. wholesaler to promote holidays on TAB. That's the main reason behind CO flights to BON.
TAB is no PTP/FDM so it's not as a tough sale for holiday destination in the U.S.; this means that with a sizable number of seats per flight already taken by a wholesaler, a weekly ATL or JFK (better) DL flight could be sustained.

I didn't know AA no longer flies SJU-POS, as I would think, there might be demmand for a twice weekly service between TAB and AA SJU hub, best if combined with POS.


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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States, joined Nov 2007, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4277 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 13):
Will they fly to CUR? If so, when will they start?

They may. In the wikipedia page, it mentioned something about the Netherlands Antilles, but I think they may fly their later on in the year.


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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4248 times:
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Carib Aviation gets certification upgrade

Monday April 28 2008

Last week, Carib Aviation was recertified to full Category One standards by the Eastern Caribbean Civil Aviation Authority (ECCAA), which is the next step in its expansion programme.
At a ceremony last Friday, the Director-General of the ECCAA Rosemond James, presented an Aircraft Maintenance Organisation Certificate to Frankie Francois, Chief Executive Officer of Carib, thus completing the second half of their certification process.
The Air Operators Certificate (AOC), which certifies Flight and Ground Operations, was completed earlier.
Registered and operating from Antigua, the air operator underwent the recertification process that was required under the new International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) compliant regulations.
Category One status signals that the airline meets the standards and quality of aviation safety and security required by ICAO.
The re-certification of Carib Aviation by the ECCAA follows that of LIAT and the former regional carrier Caribbean Star Airlines and will allow the airline to complete and activate its expansion plans.
Carib Aviation has embarked on expansion plans which will see the airline reposition itself from being predominantly an Air Taxi operator to a fully fledged scheduled operator of turbo-prop aircraft in the 12-19-seat category.
The airline will launch scheduled services to Dominica, the Hewanorra and George Charles Airports in St. Lucia, St. Vincent, St. Kitts, Nevis, Anguilla and Tortola in May.
To this end, Francois said that they have expanded their fleet by adding four Beech Airliner 99 (BE99) aircraft, which is a new airline type for Carib. That brings their fleet to eight.
Francois said that they have pilots in training, but are looking for more as well as aircraft engineers and mechanics.
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Dubai investors show interest in J'can tourism product
.More Indians seeing Caribbean island as tourist destination

DUBAI has expressed an interest in investing in tourism products here in Jamaica as the island increases its offerings in anticipation of visitors from new emerging markets like Russia, Asia and South America.

Tourism Minister Edmund Bartlett said he met with property developer Nakheel and top leisure chain Jumeirah to begin preliminary talks during his recent two-week working mission to Asia and Dubai.

"We had solid preliminary discussions with people in the Emirates with regards to investing in tourism in Jamaica and there is a great amount of excitement," the minister told the Observer at the weekend's 18th annual Jamaica Product Exchange (JAPEX) at the Hilton Kingston Hotel.
The minister said the Dubai investors had interest in hotels, attractions and aviation.

He said, too, that Indians were eyeing the Jamaican market as a destination for their tourists as he received a number of requests from Indian tour operators while in Dubai.

"We have already started to work in India and we are putting the framework in place for penetrating that market," he said.
At the same time, Bartlett said the visit to Japan, which was part of his tour, was very timely as Jamaica was able to 'rekindle' that market.

Jamaica, he said, was projected to receive 50,000 of the 20 million Japanese who will be travelling overseas on vacation by 2010.

In addition, the minister said there was agreement to the removal of a travel advisory which Japan had issued for its nationals travelling to Jamaica.

"We had a problem with the travel advisory on their website and we were able to sort that out and will be working with the ambassador here to have that removed," he said.

User currently offlineBW985 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Nov 2007, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4241 times:

Nice shot of the newly painted Q300:
http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01336157

User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States, joined Nov 2003, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4226 times:
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Quoting Caribbean484 (Reply 2):
Eos Airlines had an agreement with Constellation travel since earlier this year, however with things as they are in the industry, Constellation could not pay its bills and the agreement fell throught. I think that the pax affected were accomodated on other airlines.

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