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AC Announces New Routes For Eastern Canada  
User currently offlineCslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 400 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

Air Canada announces new routes for Eastern Canada providing daily service to New York, Toronto and Edmonton

Air Canada announced today that it is introducing non-stop service on three new routes for Atlantic Canada, connecting Halifax and New York City, Deer Lake (NL) and Toronto, and Halifax and Edmonton. The new daily flights will commence this spring.

-The introduction of daily, year-round service April 1 between Halifax and LaGuardia will facilitate travel between the Atlantic provinces and the great destination of New York City.

-Starting May 4, Air Canada will further enhance service in western Newfoundland by offering the only daily non-stop service year-round between Deer Lake and Toronto.

-Finally, on June 15, Air Canada will begin seasonal daily service between
Halifax and Edmonton, complementing our existing Halifax-Calgary service. The
Edmonton service will operate until September 16."

-The Halifax-New York, LaGuardia service will be operated by Air Canada
Jazz using a 50-seat Bombardier CRJ regional aircraft. Flights will depart
Halifax at 11:45 a.m. and arrive in New York at 12:30 p.m. They will leave
New York at 1 p.m. and arrive in Halifax at 3:40 p.m.

-The Deer Lake-Toronto service will be operated by Air Canada using a
120-seat Airbus A319, featuring our Executive Class service. Flights will
depart Toronto at 2:55 p.m. and arrive in Deer Lake at 7:05 p.m. They will
leave Deer Lake at 7:55 p.m. and arrive in Toronto at 9:18 p.m. The new route
will complement existing daily year-round service from Deer Lake to Montreal
and Halifax.

-The Halifax-Edmonton service will also be operated by Air Canada using an
Airbus A319. Flights will depart Edmonton at 10:30 p.m. and arrive at Halifax
at 6:10 a.m. They will leave Halifax at 8:10 a.m. and arrive at Edmonton at
10:30 a.m.


Does anyone know if AC intends to continue to fly between YHZ and EWR?


--cslusarc from YWG
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User currently offlineYegbey01 From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1190 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

wow....YEG is getting so many flights!!! I wish AC could run more flights from YEG to the US though...

User currently offlineSalomon From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Great news! I wonder why AC dosent start those new routes with the E190 instead of the A319. I guess the demand is there or not enough E190s have arrived.


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States, joined May 2004, 8143 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

The growth at YHZ isn't real surprising. LGA is probably a better airport for O&D to NY than is EWR, and having preclearance now makes this flight possible. I wonder if ORD-YHZ could work. AC and UA serve quite a few Canadian cities from ORD...


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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 674 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

WS operated YHZ-YEG as a seasonal service last year for the first time. I suspect AC looked at the market and decided it wanted in on the action. It certainly looks like the domestic market is becoming "Monkey see,monkey do". AC has this past winter cloned a lot of the seasonal trans-border winter schedule WS operates,so one suspects they intend on giving them a run for their money. It should shape up to be an interesting month as both carriers start to announce new services for the summer schedule starting April 1st. It should be interesting to see how the YDF-YYZ service preforms in the off season,no doubt there must be potential as they have recently upgraded the current YDF-YUL from a CRJ705 to an A319. I'm reasonably confident they can sustain the YHZ-LGA route with a CRJ200 as it will likely generate a fair amount of O&D traffic and the opening of a US pre-clearance facility at YHZ must make this rather timely.

User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 1168 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

Quoting Salomon (Reply 2):
Great news! I wonder why AC dosent start those new routes with the E190 instead of the A319. I guess the demand is there or not enough E190s have arrived.

Not sure the E190 has the legs for YHZ - YEG, esp. into a headwind.

What is up with all the new service at Deer Lake, though ?


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User currently offlineYegbey01 From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1190 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

YHZ-YEG will be operated on a seasonal basis by WJ and AC.

Both flights will be operated os red eyes

User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Seeing how there are alot of flights coming out of YHZ these days, what are the possibilities of a YHZ-YVR flight. AC used to fly this awhile ago with the 762 (Long while ago). I would think a 319 has the legs for it, doubt a E175 or E190 though.


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User currently offlineCXH From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2077 times:

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 5):
What is up with all the new service at Deer Lake, though ?

Quite simply, CanJet ceased scheduled operations in early September and by now AC has probably figured out there's enough demand for more capacity. It varied a bit, but CanJet had at least two 735 flights into YDF daily in 2006 and maybe three. I think it was two to YHZ (and continuing on elsewhere ...) and one daily to YYZ and back.

Or maybe they're bulking up to discourage WestJet from expanding into YDF?

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 7):
Seeing how there are alot of flights coming out of YHZ these days, what are the possibilities of a YHZ-YVR flight. AC used to fly this awhile ago with the 762 (Long while ago). I would think a 319 has the legs for it, doubt a E175 or E190 though.

AC operated YVR-YHZ non-stop with a 319 for a year or so. I actually flew both ways back in the summer of 2001 (2002?). I think flying time was about six hours. If I recall, the plane was only half full both ways and this was in the middle of summer. So maybe the demand just isn't there, what with a zillion AC connections via YYZ.


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User currently offlineN1120A From France, joined Dec 2003, 22904 posts, RR: 79
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 1):
wow....YEG is getting so many flights!!! I wish AC could run more flights from YEG to the US though...

The demand really isn't there, particularly when you consider that the airlines can connect people at YYC and YVR in the West and YYZ in the East. The big reason for the ramp up of Maritime-Alberta traffic is all the workers that go from Eastern Canada to the Oil Sands

Quoting Salomon (Reply 2):
Great news! I wonder why AC dosent start those new routes with the E190 instead of the A319. I guess the demand is there or not enough E190s have arrived.

It is part demand but also a big part range.

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 5):
What is up with all the new service at Deer Lake, though ?

Again, a lot of Westward movement for Eastern Canadians


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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Quoting CXH (Reply 8):

AC operated YVR-YHZ non-stop with a 319 for a year or so. I actually flew both ways back in the summer of 2001 (2002?). I think flying time was about six hours. If I recall, the plane was only half full both ways and this was in the middle of summer. So maybe the demand just isn't there, what with a zillion AC connections via YYZ.

Hey thanks for that, I was not aware. I know you can connect through YYZ, but i just like seeing my home airport getting more direct flights  Wink. Perhaps one day they will try again, connect these two wonderful cities.

Cheers Chris


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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 1168 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 10):
Quoting CXH (Reply 8):

AC operated YVR-YHZ non-stop with a 319 for a year or so. I actually flew both ways back in the summer of 2001 (2002?). I think flying time was about six hours. If I recall, the plane was only half full both ways and this was in the middle of summer. So maybe the demand just isn't there, what with a zillion AC connections via YYZ.

Hey thanks for that, I was not aware. I know you can connect through YYZ, but i just like seeing my home airport getting more direct flights Wink. Perhaps one day they will try again, connect these two wonderful cities.


I believe the main reason for acquiring the A319 w/o the binned baggage system in the belly was to ensure the a/c was light enough to make the YHZ-YVR run into a winter headwind. Makes the a/c more labour intensive on the ground though. Too bad since it seems they're not going to be doing YHZ-YVR.

The 319 occasionally tech stops on YUL-SFO/LAX as well.


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User currently offlineWolsingerjet From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1748 times:

Demand for YEG-YHZ is there as the demand has increased with the high numbers of people from atlantic canada living in Alberta,aswell as the ''vagrant'' worker market...Alberta is really a boom or bust market in general for all cities within the province...As it is very oil dependent,although it will continue to boom for many years to come as forcasted...


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User currently offlineTennisace From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

With YDF-YYZ becoming year-round, I would bet that YDF-YUL will be downsized to a CRJ705 or a CRJ200 in the fall. Good to see resumption of some old routes.....YDF-YYZ and YHZ-NYC

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 6551 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

Quoting CXH (Reply 8):
AC operated YVR-YHZ non-stop with a 319 for a year or so. I actually flew both ways back in the summer of 2001 (2002?). I think flying time was about six hours.



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 11):
I believe the main reason for acquiring the A319 w/o the binned baggage system in the belly was to ensure the a/c was light enough to make the YHZ-YVR run into a winter headwind. Makes the a/c more labour intensive on the ground though. Too bad since it seems they're not going to be doing YHZ-YVR.

YHZ-YVR is only 97 miles shorter than YHZ-LHR -- 2760 vs. 2857 (statute miles).

User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 1168 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1462 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
YHZ-YVR is only 97 miles shorter than YHZ-LHR -- 2760 vs. 2857 (statute miles).

Your point being ?


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 6551 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 15):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
YHZ-YVR is only 97 miles shorter than YHZ-LHR -- 2760 vs. 2857 (statute miles).


Your point being ?

It was just an observation, related to other comments re AC using (or in the case of YHZ-YVR, having used in the past) the A319 on some fairly long sectors. YHZ-YVR is also 55 miles further than YVR-HNL.

User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 1168 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):
It was just an observation, related to other comments re AC using (or in the case of YHZ-YVR, having used in the past) the A319 on some fairly long sectors. YHZ-YVR is also 55 miles further than YVR-HNL.

AC have never used the A319 YHZ-LHR. They _plan_ to use it YYT-LHR this spring. That's only 2012 nm. YHZ-YVR is 2399 nm.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 6551 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 17):
AC have never used the A319 YHZ-LHR. They _plan_ to use it YYT-LHR this spring. That's only 2012 nm. YHZ-YVR is 2399 nm.

Didn't intend to imply that AC