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How Will The Go! CRJ's Get To Hawaii?  
User currently offlineCongaboy From United States, joined Jan 2006, 295 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7443 times:

Was checking out the pictures of the new livery for Go! on this site, and saw that the aircraft picture was taken in PHX. It then occured to me, "how is this thing going to make it to Hawaii?". Looking up the stats here on airliners.net, I found the following:

100 - High speed cruise 851km/h (459kt), typical cruising speed 786km/h (424kt). Range with max payload at long range cruising speed with reserves 1815km (980nm).
200LR - Speeds same. Range with max payload at long range cruising speed and reserves over 3713km (2005nm).

The distance from LAX is 2563...what's the trick?


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User currently offline777STL From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2038 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7428 times:

My guess would be in-cabin fuel tanks as QF did with their 717s.

User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7417 times:

Maybe they will fly from SFO, which is closer (you check it out - true!). The ranges that you are quoting are for normal operations - a flight with nothing but two pilots and some extra fuel will have longer legs.

User currently offline2H4 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 7249 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7361 times:
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Quoting 777STL (Reply 1):
in-cabin fuel tanks


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User currently offlineCongaboy From United States, joined Jan 2006, 295 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7283 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 2):
Maybe they will fly from SFO, which is closer (you check it out - true!).

Yea, you're right...I have 2395 miles. So empty, with extra tanks, and slightly shorter hop, they make it. The installation and de-installation has to be rather costly, considering the down-time...and multiplied by what, maybe 10 aircraft?


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User currently offline4everRC From United States, joined Jul 2003, 291 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7234 times:

Quoting Congaboy (Thread starter):
"how is this thing going to make it to Hawaii?"

Maybe they can hire NASA to strap them to the top of their 747 space shuttle hauler?

:D


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User currently offlineWJ From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7143 times:

I think they are going to use aircraft carriers for fuel stops.

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User currently offlineCongaboy From United States, joined Jan 2006, 295 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7135 times:

Quoting 4everRC (Reply 5):



Quoting WJ (Reply 6):

Boy, I can tell it's a Friday....good ones!


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User currently offline4everRC From United States, joined Jul 2003, 291 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7099 times:

Quoting Congaboy (Reply 7):
Boy, I can tell it's a Friday....good ones!

Well, my next thought was...

"They can call Patrone, he'll gitter done!"

 Smile


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User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States, joined Jun 2001, 2791 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6957 times:

HA, AQ, and WP use ferry tanks inside the fuselage to bring their inter-island fleet to Hawaii, as shown in the photo above. The seats are shipped separately.


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User currently offlineL1329II From United States, joined Feb 2006, 298 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

You rang?

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User currently offline4everRC From United States, joined Jul 2003, 291 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6867 times:

Quoting L1329II (Reply 10):

LOL! Thanks L1329II! I needed that!

 Silly


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User currently offlineWJ From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6701 times:

I think they are going to use aircraft carriers for fuel stops.

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User currently offlineHa763 From United States, joined Jan 2003, 2686 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6301 times:
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Quoting Bluewave 707 (Reply 9):
The seats are shipped separately.

Actually, the seats are still on the aircraft. They flip and pile them on another row of seats, just like this:


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Only when they fly out for heavy maintenance checks do they remove the seats from the aircraft.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States, joined Feb 2004, 7253 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5310 times:
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HA had the seats placed in the cargo pits during delivery flights. They were never shipped separately, IIRC.


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User currently offlineMlglaw From United States, joined Feb 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5249 times:
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User currently offlineSrbmod From United States, joined Mar 2001, 13454 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4824 times:
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Quoting 777STL (Reply 1):
My guess would be in-cabin fuel tanks as QF did with their 717s.

Actually, the Impulse/Qantaslink 717s took the long way to Australia, flying hops up the west coast of North America, across the Bering Strait, and down Asia to Australia.


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User currently offlineDl757md From United States, joined May 2004, 1505 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

One word.


Pontoons!


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User currently offlineTropicBird From United States, joined May 2005, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1511 times:
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The last word I heard was that this coming week, the first aircraft will ferry to Hawaii via SFO (refueling at Signature Aviation). The following week will be the next 2 and the week after will have the last 2 (for a total of 5). And yes they will have auxiliary fuel tanks installed.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

The new plan is to send the aircraft via FedEx......this way, they aircraft will arrive in Hawaii by 1000am the next morning, guaranteed.

User currently offlineF9Animal From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2907 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 19):
The new plan is to send the aircraft via FedEx......this way, they aircraft will arrive in Hawaii by 1000am the next morning, guaranteed.

LMAO! That is funny!

What if the tanks failed? Please tell me they have the no smoking sign on during the flight??!!

I guess it would be a bad day if there was an onboard fire. YIKES!!


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From United States, joined Nov 2004, 22999 posts, RR: 100
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1373 times:
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Quoting 4everRC (Reply 5):
Maybe they can hire NASA to strap them to the top of their 747 space shuttle hauler?



Quoting WJ (Reply 6):
think they are going to use aircraft carriers for fuel stops.



Quoting 4everRC (Reply 8):
"They can call Patrone, he'll gitter done!"



Quoting Dl757md (Reply 17):
Pontoons!



Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 19):
The new plan is to send the aircraft via FedEx

Dang, I thought perhaps they'd have CPT Kirk just 'beam them over'.


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