Aa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4357 times:
By June 30, AA will pull all A300's and 738's out of BOS. They will be replaced by 757's and S80's. Right now BOS is the ONLY station in the AA system that gets ALL types of aircraft. To cut costs and simplify its operation AA will move those airplanes out of BOS and replace them with 757's and S80's.
LH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6218 posts, RR: 56 Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4210 times:
Quoting BOSPMV (Reply 3): how will this affect the daily flights to LAX, the 4 daily flights are currently operated on 738s, will they be switched to a 757?
Most likely. I don't think the MD-80 could make it and even if it could, I think LGB would start looking a lot more attractive to business travellers.
I'd be interested to know what will happen to the loss in capacity on the MIA and SJU flights.
LH423
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DeltAirlines From United States, joined May 1999, 6205 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4190 times:
I'd assume 757s would go to BOS-LAX. Now that the 738 is going to LRTC, there is no product differentiation (on the 738 beforehand, there would be MRTC, which is a nice thing on a transcon). Also, the 757 would have a larger capacity vs. the 738, which I think BOS can handle, especially with UA having reduced their schedules over the past few years.
Laxintl From United States, joined May 2000, 9234 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4187 times:
Quoting Komododx (Reply 1): Are the A300s going to MIA? maybe JFK?
As part of AA maintenance base readjustment, the A300 fleet will be the only type solely cared for at JFK now. While MIA does see the aircraft often, the primary station will be JFK doing Caribbean and Florida flying with the type.
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BOSugaDL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4183 times:
So if the A300 to MIA and Caribbean are being replaced with 757's are they going to increase the number of flights, or has capacity for those flights dropped? If capacity has not dropped wouldn't 767-300's make more sense as A300 replacements
Secondly, is this permanent or is it just for the summer? S. Florida and the Caribbean are popular spots for New Englanders in the winter, but I imagine that capacity would fall in the summer.
LH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6218 posts, RR: 56 Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4178 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 5): Also, the 757 would have a larger capacity vs. the 738, which I think BOS can handle, especially with UA having reduced their schedules over the past few years.
Absolutely. Prior to the removal of MRTC from all planes BOS had a 738, two 757s, and a 767-300 on the LAX route.
Then that went to all 738.
LH423
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Tekelberry From United States, joined May 2003, 1458 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4109 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Thread starter): By June 30, AA will pull all A300's and 738's out of BOS. They will be replaced by 757's and S80's. Right now BOS is the ONLY station in the AA system that gets ALL types of aircraft. To cut costs and simplify its operation AA will move those airplanes out of BOS and replace them with 757's and S80's.
I've heard that this change is actually scheduled for late this year instead of mid-2005.
MSYtristar From United States, joined Aug 2005, 4680 posts, RR: 52 Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4100 times:
Talk about the end of an era! It will be odd not seeing the big AA Airbii at Logan. But, things change, and in the end, it may be a move for the better. I know that some of the BOS-MIA flights on the AB6's go out very empty from time to time...I have seen a few load over the years with 60/70 people tops on the plane....usually mid week, off season of course.
FlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4086 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Thread starter): Right now BOS is the ONLY station in the AA system that gets ALL types of aircraft.
Doesn’t Miami share that title as well?
Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 9): Well, why does my schedule have AB6's and 738's in the schedule for the forseeable future, even as I look at March 29, 2006?
Those evil schedule changes – in this case equipment changes. AA does not have the best reputation for informing their customers ahead of time.
Laxintl From United States, joined May 2000, 9234 posts, RR: 12 Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3995 times:
Quoting BOSugaDL (Reply 7): If capacity has not dropped wouldn't 767-300's make more sense as A300 replacements
The 763 is a poor replacement for the A300 due to its high premium cabin configuration. The 757 is more appropriate to replace the A300. Remember the Caribbean and Florida are primarily leisure destinations.
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Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3392 posts, RR: 29 Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3929 times:
AAs AB6s will probably be used to beef up peak summer season services from JFK to Florida and the Carribbean states such as Dominican Republic, Haiti etc. I wont be surprised to see the AB6s taking on extra summer flights trans-atlantic and at times acting as a B 777 or B 767 replacement aircraft.
Laxintl From United States, joined May 2000, 9234 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3884 times:
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 15): AB6s taking on extra summer flights trans-atlantic and at times acting as a B 777 or B 767 replacement aircraft.
AA's A300 are no longer ETOPS qualified for Atlantic crossings. They stopped maintaining them to the higher standards back in January of 2002. With all the penny pinching going on at AA, I do not see them investing money nor staff to get them fully ETOPS again. The do fine running down to the Carrib and Latin America.
Also keep in mind the AB6 has a terrible cabin configuration (16/251). Not a type for any premium traffic.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 22951 posts, RR: 66 Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3857 times:
Quoting Aa777flyer (Thread starter): Right now BOS is the ONLY station in the AA system that gets ALL types of aircraft.
If you count the 767-200ER and 767-300ER as one aircraft, then yes, this is true.
Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 11): I know that some of the BOS-MIA flights on the AB6's go out very empty from time to time...I have seen a few load over the years with 60/70 people tops on the plane....usually mid week, off season of course.
During peak season, though, especially December through April, the A300 flights are frequently oversold with holiday travelers and Brazilians.
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 15): AAs AB6s will probably be used to beef up peak summer season services from JFK to Florida
Just a side note, but the only Florida service AA runs from JFK is six daily flights to Miami. Four A300s, one 757, and one 762 (and, between December and April this year, there was a 777 instead of the 762).
BOSPMV From United States, joined Apr 2005, 305 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3687 times:
I have flown a few times on the BOS-MIA-BOS routes, they have all been off-season, the last time was in mid September of last year and this was mid-week and it was packed, over booked infact. I have been looking at the loads between the 2 cities and they are very strong, all through the summer, I would imagine AA likes the BOS-MIA route, it seems to have high yields.
Could the JFK-MIA warrant 6 AB6's? I could see 2 AB6's and 4 757s.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 22951 posts, RR: 66 Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3620 times:
Quoting BOSPMV (Reply 18): I would imagine AA likes the BOS-MIA route, it seems to have high yields.
I doubt yields are extraordinary. It is made up for in bulk.
Quoting BOSPMV (Reply 18): Could the JFK-MIA warrant 6 AB6's?
Of course! Miami-New York City is the 2nd largest O&D market in the United States. You think those MIA-BOS flights go out packed? You should see those MIA-JFK flights! Despite usually weak domestic traffic to JFK, there has always been a huge market between Miami and JFK because of the huge volume of Miami-New York City that isn't going to Manhattan, but Queens and Long Island instead.
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