Roots From United States, joined Feb 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2337 times:
Saw NW DC-10 in new livery at SFO intl terminal A this morning. Anyone knows if it's a substitution for the inbound flight or are they going to use DC-10 to NRT today? What's the reason for the substitution? TIA.
Leamside From United States, joined Apr 2000, 371 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2193 times:
I think Boeing757/767 is right. And I thought we had seen the last of the DC-10s.
The good ole '10 has saved the day by being a back up. Otherwise, there's no real good reason to use it when considering the 330 uses about 30% less fuel than the tri-holer.
Saw the plane take off and disappear into the fog at 1:50PM. New colors too. What a surprise!
Thrust From United States, joined Sep 2003, 2424 posts, RR: 17 Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2072 times:
We will never see another passenger DC-10 flying transpacifically after NW's DC-10s are gone. Is there a legitimate reason why trijets are losing to the quadra-jets?
Ktachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1495 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
Thrust
This is more for economical reasons. As mentioned before in this thread, it is more fuel efficient and with gasoline prices going up right now, they need it. Another factor that contributed to this was the E-TOPS which enables twin engine jets like the 767 and the 777 to fly over the Pacific.
So when the winter schedule starts, AC is going to fly a 767 to NRT from YVR and YYZ. Also YVR-KIX is doubly daily in a 767 and the NGO route (stopped 10/31) is also a 767
FlyMeToTheMoon From United States, joined Jul 2004, 222 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 962 times:
The 332 landed at NRT last week with engine problems (thrust reversers not working I believe) and the brakes on the main left carriage caught on fire during landing. Japanese TV even had a video with the fire brigade out and about spraying the carriage. Not too unusual. Interestingly enough the 332 taxied to the gate on its own power after the brakes cooled off. Must have been quite the show being on-board.
Redtailmsp From United States, joined Feb 2004, 202 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 555 times:
The A330 schedule should be back to normal as of tomorrow when 3354 should be back in service on flt 6 NRT-PDX. The long delay in getting it back in service was caused by NWA having to get an engine from DTW...it had to be trucked to ORD and then be put on a freighter that ran ORD-ANC-NRT. As regards the incident, it was the nbr 1 engine that wa shut down. It landed 70000lbs overweight due no fuel dump system ordered by NWA, so yes, some brake repairs required too.
Gigneil From United States, joined Nov 2002, 13447 posts, RR: 81 Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 531 times:
Is there a legitimate reason why trijets are losing to the quadra-jets?
Trijets require significant structural fortification to carry that engine on the tail. Relative to a quad, its substantially more weight and the engine is hard to service.
The 332 landed at NRT last week with engine problems (thrust reversers not working I believe) and the brakes on the main left carriage caught on fire during landing.
There were engine problems and a heavy landing, but not fire. The brakes smoked, and got hosed off and released steam. There was no flame.
The long delay in getting it back in service was caused by NWA having to get an engine from DTW...
Given the popularity of the 100" PW4000 amongst some Asian operators, you'd think they'd have set up a way to get an engine on more quickly.
Nwfltattendant From United States, joined Nov 2003, 341 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 475 times:
The last thing im concerned about is the crew that took the DC-10 to NRT. Id do anything to get off of furlough and fly a TPAC DC-10. Maybe unemployment would be a better option for these 'pillow-pawed' FAs that cant deal with the DC-10... or sit at home on TA (time awailable for non-FA people) and wait for a call !!!
Dtwintlflyer From United States, joined Jul 2003, 301 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 412 times:
The 10 may have found its way back into NRT service from SFO because of the delays/canx from the Typhoon that hit Japan only a few days ago. With misconnections and a/c stranded in outbound Asia cities, it is now easy to at least inject a DC10 back across the pond to help move stranded pax.
And hopefully the overzealous stories of the "brake fire" can be put to rest. Heavy a/c and so what, the brakes got a little hot. All was well.
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